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by Billy the Kid
Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:50 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

I suppose you're right. Videogames can be art, and they can even be "good" art if we appreciate them.
by Billy the Kid
Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:22 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

The same could be said for anything, though, don't you think? If everyone in the entire world (except you) said the sky was red, the sky would be red. Even though the color wouldn't change, it would be generally accepted that, whatever colour the sky is, that colour is now red. The terms we use and ...
by Billy the Kid
Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:54 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

Monetary value - price, cost, material value, etc. Aesthetic value - beauty, and the ability to please visually or audibly Sentimental value - the story of an artwork and artist, usually, but could be any personal significance to the viewer Expressive value - the effectiveness of the piece of art to...
by Billy the Kid
Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:53 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

No, nothing was established. It was all flapping in the breeze and undecided.

That's why I gave a simple definition: Art is expressive creation. If we can agree on that, then the rest is settled. If not, let's hear the alternative.
by Billy the Kid
Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:57 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

I agree with Rick personally. If we look at even the games most lauded for their 'artistic merit', e.g. Snatcher or MGS objectively we're still getting extremely derivative and cliched storylines with often subpar writing and acting, it's just that interactivity goes a very, very long way. It's not...
by Billy the Kid
Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:10 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

Deckard is a dumbass?

I didn't read or understand what you said. Not at all. I did read it, and felt obliged to comment on the fact that I find it quite galling when essentially pretty basic, potentially interesting opinions are rendered virtually incomprehensible through being injected with unneccesary quantities of se...
by Billy the Kid
Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:57 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

I think pseudo-intellectualism is fantastic. Translated: I didn't read or understand what you said. Not many people make videogames in order to express something. That means that they aren't art. For example, if a machine was set to randomly spray colours on a paper, that painting wouldn't be art, ...
by Billy the Kid
Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:01 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

I'm back, fellas. I've been giving it more thought (and arguing with Shockley about it) and I have reached a new conclusion. That's right, I changed my mind. Uhhh, so here's what I think now: Art is expressive creation. This simple, broad definition means that anytime anyone anywhere creatives somet...
by Billy the Kid
Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:50 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

Now, now, no need to be like that. If I've outstayed my welcome, I apologize. Obviously you don't "get" what I meant with my first post, even, or refuse to acknowledge it, since you're still going on about the library, and not the medium.

So... bye.
by Billy the Kid
Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:48 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

I am talking about the big picture. The greatness of movies and books is in its rich past and "status". Videogames don't have a rich past, nor status, and therefore they're inferior? Who cares if RE didn't have good acting? The fact is that it could have had it. As I said before, this isn'...
by Billy the Kid
Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:54 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

Oh, come on. It's true that there's plenty of awful literature and movies, but there are so many more awful videogames. To suggest that directors and writers generally aspire to create something as compelling as videogames is ridiculous - it's an artform with very little merit (although to be fair ...
by Billy the Kid
Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:51 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: How much is too much?
Replies: 6
Views: 3464

$500 is too much for me.

I plan on waiting for the library to build up, the costs to lower, and my money to increase.
by Billy the Kid
Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:35 pm
Forum: General Gaming
Topic: Have videogames reached artistic status?
Replies: 109
Views: 42174

The question is: are videogames art, or are they artistic? Sure, all videogames require some form of artistic creation, and therefore art will always be invovled. Character artists, texture artists, illustrators, music creators, etc. etc. etc... But is the game itself "art"? I don't think ...