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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:05 am
by Marc
Katrina and Mika don't show up at the end of the PCE version, so we don't really need to worry about it.

Thanks again for doing these transcriptions, guys. :) It's a big help.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:38 am
by Charlie Johnson
MrSeed wrote:Hello everybody,
I don't get this line in mine game at the end. I think you can get it, if you offend Katrina too much at her home and you're thrown out. Can somebody confirm that?
No, you have to visit Katrina more than once in Act 1 and always ask her a little about herself. In your first meeting she won't tell anything about herself, but the more you visit her, the more she's willing to tell you.

At some points she mentions that she likes to visit Alton Plaza, because she doesn't know what else to do in her free time since her father died. (As far as I remember she quit her model job shortly after that, at least for a little while.)

After that she'll mention Alton Plaza in the ending. (But as Marc already mentioned, just in the Sega CD version.)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:23 pm
by Henry Spencer
Ah yeah, that's right. I always get mixed up with the PC Engine and Sega CD's ending. Dammit.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:35 pm
by snatcher1988
Spoiler:
If you really think about it, the PC Engine versions' ending (as well as SD Snatcher's ending) are much closer to the true original vision of it than the Sega CD versions' ending. If you have a copy of Snatcher Radio Play, you can find early storyboard sketches for the PC-88 versions' ending. In those sketches, they indicate that Randam was originally supposed to live (and in SD Snatcher, he does. SD Snatcher contains an earlier version of that ending).

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:46 pm
by 8bitsonic
This has been discussed before- SD Snatcher's plot, being very different from the original's, doesn't have Queens Hospital getting blown up, so it makes sense he'd live in that game's ending. Although Kojima may have wanted Random to be alive at the end, I think it would have been very lame and overly sappy if he did.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:53 pm
by Marc
Something tells me they might bring Random back for Project S. Arrghh. This is what I'm not looking forward to. Again, in the original ending for Snatcher (the Japanese versions), there's none of this "See you at the new and expanded JUNKER when you get back!" It was added for the Sega CD version. So it wasn't like there was a door intentionally left open for a sequel in the original game.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:56 pm
by snatcher1988
Isn't Project S supposed to be a prequel to the original game?

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:07 pm
by Solidé
snatcher1988 wrote:Isn't Project S supposed to be a prequel to the original game?
Well not actually. The web-radio drama will be preguel but Project isn't just only this web-radio drama, it's just the beginning of Project S.
At least so i have understood... :)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:14 pm
by Marc
snatcher1988 wrote:Isn't Project S supposed to be a prequel to the original game?
They've said it's a "series of works", so I assume they won't all take place in the past.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:26 pm
by 87th
I wouldn't be surprised if Randam's in Snatchers (the radio drama). It seemed like he had been a bounty hunter for a while. Maybe I'm forgetting a detail about his past?

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:57 pm
by Marc
Yeah, I expect him to be in Snatchers (albeit voiced by somebody else now), since it appears Gibson knew him, but I was talking about games that take place in the future, after his apparent death.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:29 pm
by Henry Spencer
I always thought Randam knew Jean Jack Gibson? I'm really sure that Randam went on a limb to mention he knew Jean Jack pretty well before his inevitable death (I think the comment went something along the lines of "you're nowhere near the experience and precision of Jean Jack, now he was a true Junker..." whilst talking to Gillian, something like that anyways). All of the characters I'm expecting in the radio drama are:

Napoleon (Jean Jack's contact)
Randam (Jean Jack's Bounty Hunter) with a different voice actor.
Katrina (obviously)
Benson (hopefully with foreshadowing, such as a little change in his personality and mannerisms, for example)
Harry
Mika
Little John (Jean Jack's buddy throughout)
Lisa and Freddie Nielsen (possibly at the end of the radio drama, would be cool if they tell you how the scene developed)

So yeah, I can only see Gillian, Elijah, Petrovich and Metal Gear being left out of this; since all the rest of the characters knew Jean Jack at least pretty well.

A lot of recurring characters.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:35 pm
by Marc
Gibson's disk also says "Watch out for a bounty hunter named Random Hajile."

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:37 pm
by Henry Spencer
^That's right. Was that implemented just into the Sega CD version, or is it present in the PC Engine version.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:39 pm
by Charlie Johnson
Henry Spencer wrote:^That's right. Was that implemented just into the Sega CD version, or is it present in the PC Engine version.
It's in the PCE version as well. (Even I noticed that without any japanese language abilitys.:p)

About your characters list, Isabella might appear as well, while Gibson's investigating in Outer Heaven. At least she'd finally be voiced.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:54 pm
by Henry Spencer
^ Ha! Show off! :P

About Isabella: I was going to put that on the list, it was just when I remembered her saying 'who's that' when you do show a photo of Jean Jack to her whilst investigating Outer Heaven.

Either A: she is protecting Jean Jack, not knowing he is already dead.
Or B: she never met him.

So it's 50/50. Who knows? There may have even been a love interest between the two (which might explain why she is covering for him).

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:03 pm
by Charlie Johnson
Could be, I never trusted anyone at Outer Heaven anyway.

But she doesn't even have to talk to Gibson. Maybe Gibson's eavesdropping on her while he's investigating in Outer Heaven. Or you can hear her say something after Gibson spat blood because of his ulcer.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:04 pm
by Marc
Maybe she just saw him in the crowd but never talked to him.

The radio drama prequel does open up the possibilty for some great scenarios, but I still am not sure about a sequel.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:32 am
by Henry Spencer
Charlie Johnson wrote:Could be, I never trusted anyone at Outer Heaven anyway.

But she doesn't even have to talk to Gibson. Maybe Gibson's eavesdropping on her while he's investigating in Outer Heaven. Or you can hear her say something after Gibson spat blood because of his ulcer.
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if all of the residents of Outer Heaven had become Snatchers, even Napoleon and Isabella...

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:12 am
by Charlie Johnson
Henry Spencer wrote:
Charlie Johnson wrote:Could be, I never trusted anyone at Outer Heaven anyway.

But she doesn't even have to talk to Gibson. Maybe Gibson's eavesdropping on her while he's investigating in Outer Heaven. Or you can hear her say something after Gibson spat blood because of his ulcer.
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if all of the residents of Outer Heaven had become Snatchers, even Napoleon and Isabella...
Noooo!

Not Napoleon! :o

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:57 am
by snatcher1988
Somehow, I highly doubt Napoleon is a Snatcher.

If you watch the part in Act 3 where they talk about the Snatch Process, Metal clearly stated that Snatchers cannot snatch anyone who is short, a child, tall, fat, or even elderly. And If I'm right, isn't Napoleon supposed to be short and elderly?

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:27 am
by 87th
It would also be odd for a Snatcher to knowingly help a JUNKER so much.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:05 pm
by Henry Spencer
True, the height matter will change my theory. He isn't that old though, for it to be the 'too old' reason really. I'd guess somewhere in his late 40s. So he can't be a Snatcher, since he is far too short.
87th wrote:It would also be odd for a Snatcher to knowingly help a JUNKER so much.
Well, he could have been used to gather information about the latest news and goings on at Junker HQ, if he was (got to remember the Snatchers are incredibly intelligent, they ain't going around just killing things willy nilly), but it's doubtful now that I have been reminded that they can't turn smaller people into Snatchers.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:02 pm
by Artemio
Henry Spencer wrote:Well, he could have been used to gather information about the latest news and goings on at Junker HQ, if he was (got to remember the Snatchers are incredibly intelligent, they ain't going around just killing things willy nilly), but it's doubtful now that I have been reminded that they can't turn smaller people into Snatchers.
And since they had the Chief, it is even less likely. Unless you argue about time frames... but anyway, all those thing would certainly be cheap if done.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:36 pm
by MrSeed
Ok everybody,

Here it is. The complete transcription of all voices of the Sega CD Snatcher. Good luck with the translation project. If I could help you with anything more, just give me a call.

MrSeed.