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Author:  Marc [ Wed May 02, 2007 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:  PC Engine Version Translation

Junker HQ.net is pleased to announce it is beginning a project to create an English language patch for the PC Engine version of Hideo Kojima's Snatcher. The translation will consist of transplanting the English text from the Sega CD version to the PC Engine version, with additional original translation of deleted scenes and lines as necessary. Transcriptions of the dialogue sequences will be available online, as the game does not allow for the inclusion of accompanying subtitles. Translations of both instruction manuals will also be provided.

The PC Engine version contains numerous differences from the Sega CD version, such as:

- Japanese voice-overs directed by Hideo Kojima.
- The last version of the game to be overseen by Hideo Kojima.
- Several scenes deleted from the Sega CD version, and original versions of scenes censored in the Sega CD version.
- Additional uncensored dialogue.
- Higher on-screen color display.
- Music not present in the Sega CD version.

At this time, we are looking for a person, or persons, with sufficient free time to work on the technical aspects of the project. This would involve extracting the text from the PC Engine version, reinserting the translated text back into the game and making necessary code changes, and graphics adjustment. The Sega CD text has already been extracted. Contact can be made through the email address in my profile.

Author:  Henry Spencer [ Wed May 02, 2007 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Awesome!

I knew it was coming, and I'm really glad to hear you've gone through with it. Another great project for the guys at Junker to work on. Wow, I'm excited, as you could guess. :grin:

Author:  87th [ Wed May 02, 2007 3:53 pm ]
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I'm really happy to hear about this, as it seems to be the most interesting untranslated version of the game. You have all of my support on this one. :)

Author:  JunkerMike [ Wed May 02, 2007 5:02 pm ]
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How exactly is this going to work?

Author:  Marc [ Wed May 02, 2007 6:49 pm ]
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You make an image of your copy of the PCE version, apply the translation patch, then run the new image in an emulator.

Author:  Modnar [ Wed May 02, 2007 8:02 pm ]
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Good thing, I was almost at the edge of getting tired of replaying SCD Snatcher. :grin:

This should be badass, just a little sad that the spoken parts wont have subtitles.

Author:  Marc [ Wed May 02, 2007 8:16 pm ]
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Modnar wrote:
This should be badass, just a little sad that the spoken parts wont have subtitles.


Don't most of us have the lines memorized by now anyway? :grin:

Author:  Charlie Johnson [ Thu May 03, 2007 3:57 am ]
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Osiris wrote:
Modnar wrote:
This should be badass, just a little sad that the spoken parts wont have subtitles.


Don't most of us have the lines memorized by now anyway? :grin:


Not the lines of the porn video dialogue.

But I'm really surprised about the sudden start of the project, since the Policenauts translation patch isn't even released yet. Glad to hear about the PCE translation.

Author:  Henry Spencer [ Thu May 03, 2007 8:53 am ]
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I've come up with some difficulties with my emulator as of late, so I was wondering; are you going to be putting up a guide on how to play the game emulated again, like with Policenauts and the PSX emulators?

Author:  Charlie Johnson [ Thu May 03, 2007 9:39 am ]
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Henry Spencer wrote:
I've come up with some difficulties with my emulator as of late, so I was wondering; are you going to be putting up a guide on how to play the game emulated again, like with Policenauts and the PSX emulators?


Which emulator are you using?

I'd recommend Ootake, it runs absolutly flawless. At least with Snatch0r.

http://www.ouma.jp/ootake/

Author:  Henry Spencer [ Thu May 03, 2007 1:42 pm ]
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Ah, see, I was using HU-GO. Never heard of that one you've just provided me with, I'll give it a shot, thanks.

Author:  Marc [ Thu May 03, 2007 6:12 pm ]
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Charlie Johnson wrote:
Not the lines of the porn video dialogue.


Yeah, but that's only a few lines, so it shouldn't be a problem, right?

Anyway, this project shouldn't be as complicated as the Policenauts one (fingers crossed). But we still need someone to work on it, so feel free to ask around.

Author:  Henry Spencer [ Thu May 03, 2007 6:33 pm ]
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TUS might be a good start.

Author:  Modnar [ Thu May 03, 2007 7:50 pm ]
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It costs about 20 dollars but Magic Engine is the best PCE emulator.

Author:  JunkerMike [ Thu May 03, 2007 9:57 pm ]
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Wait, how do you make a ROM of something that's on a CD? :confused:

Author:  Henry Spencer [ Fri May 04, 2007 2:53 am ]
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Check the Policenauts forum on 'how to play the game'. It's pretty much the same steps for Snatcher PC Engine, I think.

Author:  epitaph [ Fri May 04, 2007 12:24 pm ]
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Modnar wrote:
It costs about 20 dollars but Magic Engine is the best PCE emulator.

Although I dislike the idea of paying for an emulator, I can't do anything but agree regarding Magic Engine's prowess.

As for ripping PC Engine CD games, it's not as easy as you'd expect given that PC Engine games use a custom file system. cddissect is ideal for ripping them, it's minimalistic and does its job well.

Author:  Henry Spencer [ Fri May 04, 2007 5:42 pm ]
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Hmmm, see, HU-GO worked really well for me, and that was free, I checked up on the Magic Engine, and it didn't really display much more that was better than the HU-GO emulator, that's just me though. I'll try that link Charlie provided me with now.

Author:  Marc [ Sat May 05, 2007 1:06 am ]
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Some of the deleted lines can be found here: http://forums.junkerhq.net/viewtopic.php?p=8632

The candy stuff with Gibson was added to the 32-bit versions, though.

Author:  Charlie Johnson [ Sat May 05, 2007 2:20 am ]
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I always had problems with Magic Engine, the game froze after 20-30 minutes and there were annoying graphic glitches.
Using Syscard3.PCE the glitches were gone but the game froze even more frequently.

The graphics look worse with Ootake but at least it runs without problems, at least for me.

Author:  krelian [ Sat May 05, 2007 11:22 am ]
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yessssssss
I knew this was coming
I admit I've NEVER played Snatcher, as I've been hoping, for the past 5-6 years a for PCE patch

just one thing
Osiris wrote:
You make an image of your copy of the PCE version, apply the translation patch, then run the new image in an emulator.


will it work on a PCE as well? I know that CDRs can be played on a PCE no problem
I'm probably just asking the obvious but, I refuse to play it on an emulator

Author:  Marc [ Sat May 05, 2007 12:08 pm ]
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Yame is another emulator that runs it well. The only area it has problems is the end credits, but maybe that can be fixed with some tinkering.

krelian wrote:
will it work on a PCE as well? I know that CDRs can be played on a PCE no problem
I'm probably just asking the obvious but, I refuse to play it on an emulator


I suppose, if it can run CDRs.

Author:  krelian [ Sat May 05, 2007 2:36 pm ]
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cool
let's hope it'll work

I've just made an amp mod for my PCE and it looks like never before on RGB
Little note to anybody who's interested:
PCE is VERY picky on what CD brand you use. I made several copies of my most expensive titles (DraculaX, Ginga Fukei, etc...) and so far only the Verbatim datalife plus didn't give me any problems.
In same cases (ie cheap asian discs) games won't even start


P.S.
you guys will probably have your place in the history of videogames 8)

Author:  Marc [ Sat May 05, 2007 4:52 pm ]
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krelian wrote:
I admit I've NEVER played Snatcher, as I've been hoping, for the past 5-6 years a for PCE patch


You've never played it? Go and play the Sega/Mega CD version, really. We can't say when this will be finished.

Author:  Henry Spencer [ Sat May 05, 2007 6:47 pm ]
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Yeah, go play the Mega/Sega CD version, it is worth it. The VA is very good for its time, and the changes from the PC Engine version are quite good in parts, actually. The music is good as well, and different from the PC Engine version (not better than, but still good nonetheless).

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