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Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:14 am
by Anubis
As much as I hate to say it, and I never thought I would, I'm ready for Kojima to move on. Let the Metal Gear Series die. I wasn't all that impressed by the conclusion that MGS4 offered, but I'll take it if Kojima will just move on.

I'm ready for a new IP, I'm ready for another Zone of the Enders, I'd like another Boktai.

All this is irrelevant, I'm going to play whatever the game is of course, but I'd still rather have something new.

Big Boss In The Heart Of Danger

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:29 am
by JonnyTanna
It's true, the conclusion was bad.. I was happy they brought big boss back.. but Johnny Sasaki Marries Meryl? All that hammering and reminding us of previous scenarios? Lack of subtlety? schmultzy scenes!! I hate schmultz so much and they had to drill it into MGS4.. Yea, let it die Kojima.. bring on Project S!

Shame Killer7 had some schmultz in it to... why do these clever bastards have to ruin good things with cheese and schmultz?

Anyway, enough of my tangents on how much I hate schmulty, cheesy, corny moments.. Let's just stop speculating and wait until Sunday.. Speculating makes people waste time sitting on the edge of their seats, getting their hopes up..

Ps. When I say reminding us of previous scenarios, I mean the fact that they just constantly hammer it in about previous events, not just only mentioning pas events once, but constantly.. They shouldn't placate the audience so much.. if they've missed the previous episodes, they should go back and try them out...

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:00 am
by cacetete
reminding old scenarios?
they are ALREADY doing this with this big boss/snake character in the flash and the game isnt even released yet.

Re: Big Boss In The Heart Of Danger

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:54 am
by Dick Motorman
JonnyTanna wrote:It's true, the conclusion was bad.. I was happy they brought big boss back.. but Johnny Sasaki Marries Meryl? All that hammering and reminding us of previous scenarios? Lack of subtlety? schmultzy scenes!! I hate schmultz so much and they had to drill it into MGS4.. Yea, let it die Kojima.. bring on Project S!

Shame Killer7 had some schmultz in it to... why do these clever bastards have to ruin good things with cheese and schmultz?

Anyway, enough of my tangents on how much I hate schmulty, cheesy, corny moments.. Let's just stop speculating and wait until Sunday.. Speculating makes people waste time sitting on the edge of their seats, getting their hopes up..

wait you LIKED the resurrection of Big Boss?

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:00 am
by Artemio
At least that new Mask site gets my hopes up =)

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/mask/

We'll see. I wonder whart the age has as a factor for the site?

From the Action Script withing the flash it seems that it shows something from 6 to 18 hours and something different during the rest of the day (the two masks most probably).

onClipEvent (enterFrame)
{
date_obj = new Date();
time_h = date_obj.getHours();
if (time_h >= 6 && time_h < 18)
{
_root.gotoAndStop(5);
} // end if
}

This might imply something related to game mechanics and time.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:21 pm
by ShinjiPG
Screw the Metal Gear site, I want to know more about Mask!
Well, only until they confirm it's PS3 exclusive, after which point I'll lose complete interest.

6h to 18h mask:
Image

18h to 6h mask:
Image

It's basically the same mask, only deteriorated. If you place one on top of the other, you get this:
Image

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 6:29 pm
by JonnyTanna
Yea, I did like that they brought back big boss, even though it was completely contrived and completely implausible. I was happy to see him.

Weren't you?

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:00 pm
by Solfieri
Dude Kojima is melting my brain =S

So, we are here then working with 3 hipotesis, MGS5, Snatcher or a new title related to metal gear, right? hum... everything except the good sense points to a new metal gear (maybe Metal Gear Existence?) game. Maybe Snatcher is there just to draw atention off.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:18 am
by seraphssavior
I'm gonna say it.

New MGS on PSP. Bet on it.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:27 am
by Aardvark Soup
Didn't Kojima say he was working on two titles? Maybe those are the new Metal Gear and this 'mask' thing. I certainly am curious.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:00 am
by ShinjiPG
These started happening since May 28th, but I'm just going to summarize them here.

The Kojima Productions logo at the bottom of the NEXT website changes into the Mask from time to time, as seen here:
Image

Also, there's now the "Raiden look-a-like" character flashing and more letters, namely C, O or 0 and 6, which leaves us with:
5 or S; E; e; 3; R; P; C; O or 0; 6.
Image

That guy(?) is looking less and less like Raiden to me...

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:32 am
by The Hero
Normally, I don't look through theories or make my own, concerning upcoming Kojima games, but there is one thing I'm curious about...

Assuming that the countdown sites concerns the next MGS game, I wonder if Time will be a factor in the game. Like with MGS3 and 4; when both games were announced, we knew pretty much next to nothing about the games, we only saw Naked Snake/Big Boss surviving in the jungle and using camoflauge in the first MGS3 trailer, and that became an essential part of the game. And when MGS4 was first announced, they only showed us that we would be right in the middle of the battlefield and having less places to hide than before, and sure enough, that became a part of the game.

Maybe we'll only have a set amount of time to complete the next MGS game, or maybe there will be certain missions where time will be a factor... Or maybe Snake will need to use Otacon's latest invention: A TIME MACHINE POWERED BY NANOMACHINES, FRIED EGGS and CIGARETTE BUTTS!! AHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, BRILLIANT!!!!!! :P

And speaking of the site, it's changed again; now the weather on the site is sunny and bright, and the only thing flashing (as far as I know) is something that looks like an 8. :/

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:31 am
by Cyan Garamonde
I think the '8' has at least two meanings in this context. It's practically the kanji character 日, meaning sun. Which is fitting, since the sun is seen in the background.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:20 am
by ShinjiPG
Only 5 hours left :)
The Mask site continues the same. I'm almost sure "NEXT" and "MASK" are unrelated games/things.

Re:

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:07 am
by Dick Motorman
JonnyTanna wrote:Yea, I did like that they brought back big boss, even though it was completely contrived and completely implausible. I was happy to see him.

Weren't you?
no, no way.



also an interesting thing, the trees on the side are back to Gillian.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:17 am
by seraphssavior
God fucking damnit...the thing's gonna end while I'm at work...total bullshit.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:18 pm
by Dick Motorman
seraphssavior wrote:God fucking damnit...the thing's gonna end while I'm at work...total bullshit.
eh you'll get the news anyways, depending on if anything special actually happens.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:55 pm
by ShinjiPG
Just confirmed in the Microsoft conference at E3: the guy in the pics is Raiden.
They showed a teaser of the game, it's called Metal Gear Solid Rising, the subtitle is "Lighting bolt action" and the only meaningful words are "Raiden is back". Apparently it's going to be XBOX 360 exclusive.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:58 pm
by Artemio
Just to add an image:

Image

As many of us though, the Raiden part.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:00 pm
by seraphssavior
A lot of people are confused about that...some people are saying it's exclusive, and some people are claiming that Kojima came out after the exclusives were listed...I'm hoping for multiplatform.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:05 pm
by Dick Motorman
good lord...

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:06 pm
by seraphssavior
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/142/14276686.html

PS3 site has it listed...don't know what that means, but come on...the flame wars have already started on Gamefaqs.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:17 pm
by ShinjiPG
seraphssavior wrote:http://ps3.ign.com/objects/142/14276686.html

PS3 site has it listed...don't know what that means, but come on...the flame wars have already started on Gamefaqs.
"but the Metal Gear franchise soldiers on without Snake and without series creator Hideo Kojima at the helm."

Did Kojima say he wasn't going to direct this Raiden game?

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:18 pm
by Dick Motorman
I had a little hope, and a little respect left for Kojima after 3 and 4... but now... I just don't know.

Re: Kojima Productions New IP Revealed Soon?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:57 pm
by Ghost
I just found out about the new MGS game on a Dutch game site, I guess just like how I parted with the Star Trek franchise when Enterprise came out and now that new Star Trek movie, this new MGS is the one that makes me part with the Metal Gear franchise.

I fortunately still have MG2: SS and MG: Ghost Babel, but for me the series is now dead as is the Kojima who once made games like Snatcher, Solid Snake, and the Boktai games.