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factory sealed premium package(pal,)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:38 pm
by illusion
I have a factory sealed premium package (pal, uk)- is interesting, but it may cost about? as far as I know, it is 10 times rarity than the shareholder japan gold

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Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:54 pm
by Screaming Mantis
Awesome, looks good.

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:15 pm
by lance
our good ol resident poster violentsnake might be able to spell the value out for you... Are you selling it? if you are, then I'm interested in it...

I just hope I can actually afford it's value... Whatever it is... :mrgreen:

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:16 pm
by jonthomas83
I would love one Sealed if it ever came my way. I was too ashamed to post pictures of my banged up box on my site, that's really snobbish though isn't it, but it looks to me like I'll be hard pushed to find one in mint condish these days. Luckily for me, it's contents are in top condition so I'm happy, but I'm still in the hunt for a sealed one. The one's I've seen that are in good condition and non-sealed, people are trying to sell for megabucks. I've yet to see any sealed, as am I a sealed PAL MGS.

Now you've posted pics of yours I'm tempted to get my pictures out too! lol.

Does anyone know how many were made? If it is rarer than the Gold Shareholder Pack then I'm happy, but are you really sure about that fact illusion mate?
lance wrote:our good ol resident poster violentsnake might be able to spell the value out for you.
Does Violent own this? I don't think he does to be honest, he's not moved onto PAL yet, but he doesn't miss a trick so I wouldn't be surprised he'll get one eventually! He's gone a bit quiet...where you to mate? (god that was Welshy! Forgive my colloquialisms at times! lol) In English, that means "Where are you?"

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:29 pm
by illusion
jonthomas83 wrote:snobbish
:mrgreen: omg :D

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:30 pm
by illusion
illusion wrote:
jonthomas83 wrote:snobbish
:mrgreen: omg :D
no.Not sell . :evil:

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:02 pm
by TSi
sorry, but this has nothing to touch against the Premiums Shareholder JPN.

the only reason why this might seem more rare than the JPN shareholder one is because everyone who got a PAL premium back then was an idiot, they all opened it up. (compared to the Japanese people, who all kept it mint sealed)

unless I see that it's sealed (around the box, if that exists) and mint condition, its not that rare at all, esp considering last week there were at least 2-3 of them on UK ebay.

The price... its nowhere near Premium Shareholder JPN. check the "spotted" thread, im sure there are a few recorded there.

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:18 pm
by jonthomas83
TSi wrote:sorry, but this has nothing to touch against the Premiums Shareholder JPN.

the only reason why this might seem more rare than the JPN shareholder one is because everyone who got a PAL premium back then was an idiot, they all opened it up. (compared to the Japanese people, who all kept it mint sealed)

unless I see that it's sealed (around the box, if that exists) and mint condition, its not that rare at all, esp considering last week there were at least 2-3 of them on UK ebay.

The price... its nowhere near Premium Shareholder JPN. check the "spotted" thread, im sure there are a few recorded there.
I don't think he's saying it's better than the Gold Premium mate, but if the numbers stack up, maybe he's right in saying that it's rarer than the shareholder. Depends on how many were made. If it's less than 5,000 then he's correct.

If it exists though, the chances of seeing a sealed copy are slim indeed, I'd say, just from the past few months of looking, that a sealed MGS PAL Premium is definitely rarer than a Gold Shareholder Sealed. Yeah you're right though, even if it is rarer, it'd never match the price of a Gold Shareholder, sealed or not.

Somehow though, I don't think less than 5,000 of these were made, but it'd be cool to find out.

I'd say that you'd be looking at under £100 for un unsealed PAL Premium illusion. I bought mine for a bargain £50 warts 'n' all!

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:30 pm
by TSi
hmmm, im actually not sure about the production run for the PAL one, so I can't say which one might be "rarer" in terms of numbers.

but of course, even if it does run over 5k print runs, im sure at least 90% of them are opened, which actually makes it "sealed" even MORE rare.

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:33 pm
by jonthomas83
TSi wrote:hmmm, im actually not sure about the production run for the PAL one, so I can't say which one might be "rarer" in terms of numbers.

but of course, even if it does run over 5k print runs, im sure at least 90% of them are opened, which actually makes it "sealed" even MORE rare.
Yeah exactly mate, it's gutting to think that people over here didn't think about that when they bought them up on release date. I'd love to see one, in fact, hell, I'd love to know if they even came sealed in the first place! lol.

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:37 pm
by bay
TSi wrote:the only reason why this might seem more rare than the JPN shareholder one is because everyone who got a PAL premium back then was an idiot, they all opened it up. (compared to the Japanese people, who all kept it mint sealed)
yes, curse those idiots that actually play their games.

gimme a break. :p

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:40 pm
by jonthomas83
bay wrote:yes, curse those idiots that actually play their games.

gimme a break. :p
Yeah I agree in most instances, but in this instance I'd still love to find a sealed one!

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:41 pm
by TSi
bay wrote:
TSi wrote:the only reason why this might seem more rare than the JPN shareholder one is because everyone who got a PAL premium back then was an idiot, they all opened it up. (compared to the Japanese people, who all kept it mint sealed)
yes, curse those idiots that actually play their games.

gimme a break. :p
yes bay, i like to use harsh words =P.
but the intention was... u know what i mean

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:46 pm
by violentpig
Here's the scoop. Konami was infamous for *NOT* sealing their PAL region games. Sealedgameheaven moderator Gemini-Phoenix has an awesome thread regarding this. Now, that's not to say no Konami games were sealed, it's just some are and some aren't. Even today many copies of MGS4 in the UK are new but not sealed. Anyways....

The Premium Pack was NOT sealed by Konami. The inner contents were but not the box. The boxes were sealed by some retailers, so although yours is sealed and I highly suggest not to open it, it's not a sought after factory seal. How did I finally find this out? Someone in the UK had contacted me that saw it on my want list as "Premium Pack PAL *sealed* and informed me all about it. He's worked at a video game store for years, even when this was released 11 years ago. I also know someone in Spain that has a case of these (spanish version) and none of the boxes are sealed (only inner contents), but it's only recently I've received confirmation on the PAL version.

As far as print run, I believe it's 10,000 for the entire european region.

Although it's quite rare and a sealed PAL premium package (only inner contents sealed) may be harder to find than a sealed gold package, I doubt it would sell higher. If you're looking for a number, I think yours with the extra store seal would go for $300-$400US depending on how good of an auction listing you make and if you can attract the right buyers.

Hope that helps!

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:50 pm
by jonthomas83
Quality, cheers for the info Violent, you really are a goldmine of info fella. I guess I can probably count the store seal out then, I don't think I'd want that anyway. So the search continues, I just need a mint condish box! lol. Time to ammend the wishlist! :)

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:53 pm
by violentpig
The game inside was sealed though, so here's a tip to get a better deal.

Buy an open premium package (if the game only is open) and a sealed MGS and just swap the too. You'd be the only person that knows and it might save you money.

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:03 pm
by TSi
violentsnake wrote:The game inside was sealed though, so here's a tip to get a better deal.

Buy an open premium package (if the game only is open) and a sealed MGS and just swap the too. You'd be the only person that knows and it might save you money.
theres probalby a difference though =P

like if you try to put the sealed MGS inside the premium package, it wil be different.

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:31 pm
by violentpig
TSi wrote:
violentsnake wrote:The game inside was sealed though, so here's a tip to get a better deal.

Buy an open premium package (if the game only is open) and a sealed MGS and just swap the too. You'd be the only person that knows and it might save you money.
theres probalby a difference though =P

like if you try to put the sealed MGS inside the premium package, it wil be different.
Possibly, but it'd be VERY VERY minor. It's more noticeable on the JPN version as there's a different SPCH-# on it and sometimes even a MSRP I think on the front for the individual version.

I'm too lazy to go check mine heh. There is a diff though.

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:46 am
by illusion
TSi wrote: unless I see that it's sealed (around the box, if that exists) and mint condition, its not that rare at all, esp considering last week there were at least 2-3 of them on UK ebay.
hehe...this item is NOT original sealed.....these opened package



PAL - solder, the label for packages JAPANESE BOXES FACTORY very easy to do)

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:36 am
by jonthomas83
violentsnake wrote:The game inside was sealed though, so here's a tip to get a better deal.

Buy an open premium package (if the game only is open) and a sealed MGS and just swap the too. You'd be the only person that knows and it might save you money.
I'd love to but I can't find one ANYWHERE! lol.
TSi wrote:theres probalby a difference though =P

like if you try to put the sealed MGS inside the premium package, it wil be different.
Nope, no differences at all between my stand alone and my premium pack versions.

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:53 am
by illusion
violentsnake wrote:
Although it's quite rare and a sealed PAL premium package (only inner contents sealed) may be harder to find than a sealed gold package, I doubt it would sell higher. If you're looking for a number, I think yours with the extra store seal would go for $300-$400US depending on how good of an auction listing you make and if you can attract the right buyers.

I offered $ 800...

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:04 am
by illusion
this is ORIGINAL factory sealed . I buy it this package how PREDRELISE ITEM .Not Shop selling
this label is original factory sealed box

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Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:49 pm
by violentpig
illusion wrote:
violentsnake wrote:
Although it's quite rare and a sealed PAL premium package (only inner contents sealed) may be harder to find than a sealed gold package, I doubt it would sell higher. If you're looking for a number, I think yours with the extra store seal would go for $300-$400US depending on how good of an auction listing you make and if you can attract the right buyers.

I offered $ 800...
WOW WOW WOW that's high!

You're offers are quite large....is there anything of mine you'd like?!?! :mrgreen:

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:35 pm
by whitetrashshayno
So this pal one, is it all in english?

What is the contents of this thing? So far it really only looks like a really shiney 300-500 dollar box.

Is thier anything that's actually cool inside?
I love me some mgs but spending 300 for a box is insane for me.
*even though i spent that on a smashing pumpkins vinyl hahaha*

Re: factory sealed premium package(pal,uk)-real value?

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:48 pm
by TSi
whitetrashshayno wrote:So this pal one, is it all in english?

What is the contents of this thing? So far it really only looks like a really shiney 300-500 dollar box.

Is thier anything that's actually cool inside?
I love me some mgs but spending 300 for a box is insane for me.
*even though i spent that on a smashing pumpkins vinyl hahaha*
I think it has the same content as the JPN one... but with different poster and different languages =P