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I've not read through the posts entirely, so sorry if I've missed anything, but the point made on Snake Soup is that it should be zoomed, I for one would be TOTALLY against that. Yes, with expanding at least you're seeing more (maybe even stuff that director didn't intend to be in shot) BUT, and this is huge to me, if you zoom in, you're losing (potentially) vital elements that the director intended to be in shot. Not a fan of that idea whatsoever!
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That's not what the Snake Soup is saying. What it's saying is that the original field of view should be displayed full-screen, with subtitles placed on top of the screen (like what's done in MGS4/Portable Ops/Peace Walker), instead of what amounts to letterboxing HD games. What we're suggesting they do wouldn't be zooming.

Funnily enough, what they have going on right now is almost like zooming -- zooming out.
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AwesomeBrand wrote:You can't play PS2 games on PS3 >.>
Specifically newer model PS3s such as the Slim.
Which is what I have.
Well you can play PS2 games on PS3, it is just the newer models that can't.. and that *might* change soon, you never know... It seems you only care about playing them on a PS3 without backwards compatibility then, not really caring about the quality. Let us care about the quality and try to be vocal about it so you can have a better product, even if you don't care about it. Won't hurt you either.
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Marc wrote:That's not what the Snake Soup is saying. What it's saying is that the original field of view should be displayed full-screen, with subtitles placed on top of the screen (like what's done in MGS4/Portable Ops/Peace Walker), instead of what amounts to letterboxing HD games. What we're suggesting they do wouldn't be zooming.

Funnily enough, what they have going on right now is almost like zooming -- zooming out.
Ah cool, ok my bad! :) Thanks for clearing that up...was about to have ratio-rage! haha
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New screenshots via Gamescom! The gun icon is no longer stretched out, but the black bars are still present during cutscenes. Oh well, it'd be a bit of effort to reprogram every cutscene in the game to seem as they were on the PS2 sans black bars.

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AwesomeBrand wrote:Oh well, it'd be a bit of effort to reprogram every cutscene in the game to seem as they were on the PS2 sans black bars.
A lot less that making a game programmed in assembly to run in a complete different architecture, specially if you have all the assets and source code =P
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Yeah, I guess that'd take effort too. I dont' know much about programming which may be why I don't understand, but the main issue I'd think would be the simple fact that the cutscenes are realtime. Could be wrong.
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I'm a bit disappointed that they screwed up the letter boxing considering it was "Do-able", within the rework. Oh well...

Anyone else getting the Ltd Edition European set? It's a monster price for a steel book edition though, hope a little effort goes into it!

Also, just found out the MGS2&3 are 720p only, it's Peace Walker that's 1080p, really gutted about that. False advertising again, they sold this on the basis that it's "1080p / 60fps". They seemed to have screwed us a bit there.
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Don't give them your money if you don't feel they've earned it. I'm not (because of this cutscene issue). I've already bought and played the games, so for me to buy them again I'd need that... ahem... aspect of the original presentation intact.
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No PS3 game that I have played has a native resolution of 1080p, so I myself didn't expect such. Nice to know that at least one of the games, not being the best one aside, gets a 1080p treatment! Then again it still won't look as good as MGS3 regardless so...
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AwesomeBrand wrote:No PS3 game that I have played has a native resolution of 1080p, so I myself didn't expect such. Nice to know that at least one of the games, not being the best one aside, gets a 1080p treatment! Then again it still won't look as good as MGS3 regardless so...
This is true, MGS3 (and MGS2 judging by the look of the latest screens tweeted by Kojima) looks amazing!

I played Wipeout HD in 1080p and it looks outstanding! :)
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Well its a shame they didn't include MGS1 (not Twin Snakes) with this collection ;(
Maybe one day they will remaster this classic for us?

I'm REALLY enjoying "Peace Walker" since I didn't have a PSP and felt like I missed out until now!

I own MGS3:S (PS2) and MGS 1 + 2 on the PC (which were basically HD compared to the PS2 versions when released) so I pretty much got the collection for PW lol!
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el_ash wrote:Well its a shame they didn't include MGS1 (not Twin Snakes) with this collection ;(
Maybe one day they will remaster this classic for us?
I like the way you think. :)

I imagine they would go all out and remake MGS1 instead of remaster it, since with the amount of effort it would take to make it work for today's hardware they would inevitably get into changing other aspects.
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I tested out the Transfarring in Peace Walker. I was able to transfar a stat hacked game save.
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el_ash wrote:Well its a shame they didn't include MGS1 (not Twin Snakes) with this collection ;(
Maybe one day they will remaster this classic for us?
What about the PlayStation Store version ? Or is it not of good enough quality on a HD TV ?
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el_ash wrote:Well its a shame they didn't include MGS1 (not Twin Snakes) with this collection ;(
Maybe one day they will remaster this classic for us?
What about the PlayStation Store version ? Or is it not of good enough quality on a HD TV ?
It's about as good as a PS1 game stretched out can look. Thank goodness you can have it keep it's 4:3 ratio and smooth the image out a little.
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I'm living in Europe so i ordered the US version from videogamesplus store. It's still going to take few days until i get it. But could someone tell me if i can play Peace Walker in co-op via EU PSN network? And in time when it's finally released here in Europe and my freinds have bought the game, can i play it with them too? Oh and what about the trophys?
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Solidé wrote:I'm living in Europe so i ordered the US version from videogamesplus store. It's still going to take few days until i get it. But could someone tell me if i can play Peace Walker in co-op via EU PSN network? And in time when it's finally released here in Europe and my freinds have bought the game, can i play it with them too? Oh and what about the trophys?
I just started "Chapter 5" of PW! (special Chapter)
Well I'm in the USA and PW has co-op, but since I haven't actually tried it yet I'm not sure about the details...sorry (Skyrim just came out...hogs my time lol!)

I've been getting "Trophies" unlocked while playing, so I don't see why the EU version wouldn't have them (?) If you mean what are they?
I'm sure they are available to see online (a website) or you can view mine on my PSN "Ash712" :mrgreen:
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Solidé wrote:I'm living in Europe so i ordered the US version from videogamesplus store. It's still going to take few days until i get it. But could someone tell me if i can play Peace Walker in co-op via EU PSN network? And in time when it's finally released here in Europe and my freinds have bought the game, can i play it with them too? Oh and what about the trophys?
I just started "Chapter 5" of PW! (special Chapter)
Well I'm in the USA and PW has co-op, but since I haven't actually tried it yet I'm not sure about the details...sorry (Skyrim just came out...hogs my time lol!)

I've been getting "Trophies" unlocked while playing, so I don't see why the EU version wouldn't have them (?) If you mean what are they?
I'm sure they are available to see online (a website) or you can view mine on my PSN "Ash712" :mrgreen:
I meant that can i even get those trophies via EU PSN? =)

And yeah, i think we are PSN friends already, my profile name is Solide18. Maybe we could test that Peace Walker in co-op some time ;)
I hope to get the game today, but it might come tomorrow or day after that. We'll see.
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Too bad even the US version is just including the toned down EU/JP versions of MGS2 & 3 this time. :(
Couldn't care less about the (neglectable) changes they made in MGS3, but i'd have loved to finally get my hands on the uncensored version of part 2...
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It's also a shame that MGS2 and MGS3 contain quite a few bugs that aren't in the original games.

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The MGS3 version included in this collection is the Subsitence one with the new camera angle?
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It's the Subsistence version with the 3D camera, but without Duel Mode, Metal Gear Online, and also without the nightmare of Snake "Guy Savage" apparently...
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