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Z.O.E The untouched marvel

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:50 pm
by SolidSnake1MGS
I love the ZOE games and films, its one of the few great series that hasn't resulted in rip off and cheese for one simple reason. The game is a very very good niche :)

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:43 pm
by Ninja Kurosai
I love the first one, but I havnt had the chance to pick up the 2nd one. Next time I see it im definatly snatching it up 8)

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:27 pm
by Artemio
Ninja Kurosai wrote:I love the first one, but I havnt had the chance to pick up the 2nd one. Next time I see it im definatly snatching it up 8)
You should.. Anubis (ZOE2) improved at leat half over the first one in every single way... I simply love it. It is one of those games that you can simply grab and enjoy for the gameplay alone.. or you can go into the full plot and finish the whole thing out of fun...

Truly a great game...

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:21 am
by Jonathan Ingram
Maybe I should give this title another chance... I never really liked it. Mind you, I've been saying I'll give ZOE another try for about a year now.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:26 am
by Snake Plissken
I just got pissed off that in the twin snakes remake ZOE replaced all its traces of Policenauts compared to the original PSX release. This peeves me cause people need to know about how awsome policenauts was, newer gamers ya know that probly won't play the original.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:39 am
by Jonathan Ingram
I couldn't believe that I was seeing ZOE footage in TS... and they swapped the poster. Not having a Policenauts reference in a Kojima game is like... well, it not being a Kojima game. Which it isn't really, cynical as it sounds TS had Kojima's name tagged onto it, and was something SK could do while the Kojima team were busy with MGS3.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:56 am
by Snake Plissken
most of all his past game ref's in the metal gear games are becoming more than refs but clues that the <B>Patriots</B> are KCEJ. Kojima may have played the snatcher end theme at the title screen but thats not his style at all among everything. And the screen blacking out at mantis's boss encounter ect. I think hideo's been building the <B>Patriots</B> since metal gear solid 1.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:36 am
by Ninja Kurosai
I remember when I first played MGS and I saw the policenauts poster, I was like "Woa that looks awsome! I wish I could play that!" 5 years later it came true. :P

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:49 am
by Jonathan Ingram
I don't think that the screen blacking out during Mantis' battle is anything to do with the <B>Patriots</B>, it's just Mantis 'messing' with Snake's mind, and the "hideo" thing is a play on words, as Mantis hides during that time.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:59 am
by Artemio
Jonathan Ingram wrote:I don't think that the screen blacking out during Mantis' battle is anything to do with the <B>Patriots</B>, it's just Mantis 'messing' with Snake's mind, and the "hideo" thing is a play on words, as Mantis hides during that time.

I have to agree here.. it is reading much between the lines... we would have to say that Metal Gear telling you to raise the volume in Snatcvher is also an act of the <B>Patriots</B>... =P

I'd rather say that Kojima has always loved to "play" with the audience at different levels... make the games self consicous and auto referential, as well as use the digital medium to its max.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:54 pm
by Snake Plissken
I was thinking that too for a second with snatcher :roll: Kojima knows his playing feild and how power tech is getting so he's making an over exaggeration of what it can do, like how he homages 2001 a space oddyessy in every game

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:09 pm
by Johnny Undaunted
To be honest, I really didn't have much of an incentive to try out the original ZoE. By the time I had my PS2, MGS2 already came out. :p I've been meaning to try ZoE2 someday though.

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:20 am
by Kami
The only one flaw that I find in ZOE games is its longevity, but, they're excelent games, they're just beautiful! :D

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:07 pm
by Zhofe
Actually, the Hideo is a play on certain TV sets that have the be put on the Video setting to detect the PS. In the corner of the TV when you switch to this with no input it would say VIDEO and the screen would be black, so Kojima was making it seem like the PS got disconnected.

The same is done in MGS2 making it seem like you got a game over in the Tengu battle.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:52 pm
by 87th
ZOE is fairly poor compared to its sequal. Second Runner is a fantastic game (although not near the quality of the MetalGear series, Snatcher or Policenauts) and it's really worth trying to find a copy before it becomes too rare, especially if you can play the Special Edition.

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:39 am
by ReasonWhyNot
Snake Plissken wrote:I just got pissed off that in the twin snakes remake ZOE replaced all its traces of Policenauts compared to the original PSX release. This peeves me cause people need to know about how awsome policenauts was, newer gamers ya know that probly won't play the original.
Okay, maybe I'm about nine months late responding here, but one little cutscene of a game that most Americans and Europeans will probably never end up playing (certainly not in their native tongue) is not the biggest disgrace performed by Silicon Knights in the creation of Twin Snakes. It doesn't even deserve a spot in the top ten. It's insignificant. I think most gamers would be just as well off never knowing of the game's existence. Ignorance is bliss, after all.