You mean Jeremy Blaustein.snatcher1988 wrote:Don't know if this would count or not but...
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Yeah, that's who I meant.
And not only that, but I've noticed some continuity errors in the localization, as well.
And not only that, but I've noticed some continuity errors in the localization, as well.
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snatcher1988 wrote:Yeah, that's who I meant.
And not only that, but I've noticed some continuity errors in the localization, as well.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that those dates were changed to make it more modern for American and European gamers, since no other versions of the game had ever come out before.Johnny Undaunted wrote:snatcher1988 wrote:Yeah, that's who I meant.
And not only that, but I've noticed some continuity errors in the localization, as well.
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I don't see much point of trying to update a fictional date in a story when its going to be dated in two or three years anyway.
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Well, if you want to make the story somehow more believable. I mean, after I saw the original Transformers movie (the cartoon) I was under the impression that the human race would be destroyed by the year 2005, and that this giant thing would fly throughout the universe eating planets...maybe called....Unicorn? Seriously though, I think I remember quite a few old games they changed the dates for to make them seem more possible.Johnny Undaunted wrote:I don't see much point of trying to update a fictional date in a story when its going to be dated in two or three years anyway.
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I don't think this has been mentioned, but in MG2 and Snatcher, Gillian and Snake both mention being home in time for Christmas, during the later parts of their mission.
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All right, thanks.
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Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but a lot of Kojima's games featured a plot twist where the protagonist gets betrayed by his superiors:
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Just curious but...
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Isn't "Hidechan 2.5" podcast/soundtrack a reference to IdeaSpy 2.5? (The radiodrama included on Ghost Babel)
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Re: Overlapping Kojima games?
Likely, but that's a podcast, not a game.Jack Stern wrote:Isn't "Hidechan 2.5" podcast/soundtrack a reference to IdeaSpy 2.5? (The radiodrama included on Ghost Babel)
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I didn't see it in the list, but according to the database (urgh) Gene in MPO uses something form ZOE, which allows him to do that crazy stuff. This probably isn't very helpful as I can't remember what it was.
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The Prince II wrote:I didn't see it in the list, but according to the database (urgh) Gene in MPO uses something form ZOE, which allows him to do that crazy stuff. This probably isn't very helpful as I can't remember what it was.
The only reference I see is the Viper codename, from the Ghost Babel guy.[Gene (FOX Unit)]
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Zero Shift ?The Prince II wrote:according to the database (urgh) Gene in MPO uses something form ZOE, which allows him to do that crazy stuff.
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This may or may not have been said already, sorry, but I don't have the time currently to read all these posts..
But in the first post, under Metal Gear Solid 4, it has Dr. Ellen Madnar credited for saving Raiden, this is incorrect. He was saved by Dr. Petrovich Madnar, the same scientist that gets around.
I thought it was Ellen too, but Raiden refers to "Dr. Madnar" as a he. Also, in the database (takes with grain of salt) Petrovich is in the timeline, linked to Raiden and Paradise Lost.
After all this, and then playing Snatcher, I strongly feel that maybe "MODNAR" is really "MADNAR" and I had to shake off the feeling that Random was related to Raiden. To further complicate things, I've found songs of Snatcher (this could be an error on someone's part) but Random's is called "Randam"
*shrugs* It really is 'one of those things.'
However I'm positive, 100%, that it's Petrovich not Ellen, his daughter, that saved Raiden.
But in the first post, under Metal Gear Solid 4, it has Dr. Ellen Madnar credited for saving Raiden, this is incorrect. He was saved by Dr. Petrovich Madnar, the same scientist that gets around.
I thought it was Ellen too, but Raiden refers to "Dr. Madnar" as a he. Also, in the database (takes with grain of salt) Petrovich is in the timeline, linked to Raiden and Paradise Lost.
After all this, and then playing Snatcher, I strongly feel that maybe "MODNAR" is really "MADNAR" and I had to shake off the feeling that Random was related to Raiden. To further complicate things, I've found songs of Snatcher (this could be an error on someone's part) but Random's is called "Randam"
*shrugs* It really is 'one of those things.'
However I'm positive, 100%, that it's Petrovich not Ellen, his daughter, that saved Raiden.
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Re: Overlapping Kojima games?
It's already noted. I'm going to change that when I make the next edit.Junker Gear Snatcher wrote:This may or may not have been said already, sorry, but I don't have the time currently to read all these posts..
But in the first post, under Metal Gear Solid 4, it has Dr. Ellen Madnar credited for saving Raiden, this is incorrect. He was saved by Dr. Petrovich Madnar, the same scientist that gets around.
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from wiki:Junker Gear Snatcher wrote: After all this, and then playing Snatcher, I strongly feel that maybe "MODNAR" is really "MADNAR" and I had to shake off the feeling that Random was related to Raiden. To further complicate things, I've found songs of Snatcher (this could be an error on someone's part) but Random's is called "Randam"
*shrugs* It really is 'one of those things.'
The aforementioned Dr. Pettrovich Madnar (or Petrovich Modnar, as his name is spelled in the English version) from Snatcher is the father of Elijah Madnar, the mastermind behind the Snatcher menace. He is also the creator of Randam Hajile, a bioroid hunter built in Elijah's likeness.
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Um at the end of Snatcher Gillian says:
"Random? no, not quite" when he see's Elijah
this is quite similar to the line
"Liquid? no, you're not" that Meryl says when she first see's Snake.
I dunno, but when I heard that line that was the first thought that came into my head.
"Random? no, not quite" when he see's Elijah
this is quite similar to the line
"Liquid? no, you're not" that Meryl says when she first see's Snake.
I dunno, but when I heard that line that was the first thought that came into my head.
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EDIT: #-o I read that wrong.
Glad that clears THAT up.
Yes, Gene uses something called Zero Shift.
I also found it interesting that in the Opening of Metal gear Solid 4, during the "commercials" the one with David Hayter shows that he has a tattoo of Kobe behind his ear. (I'm not sure if he really does or if that's also some sort of Snatcher reference)
Glad that clears THAT up.
Yes, Gene uses something called Zero Shift.
I also found it interesting that in the Opening of Metal gear Solid 4, during the "commercials" the one with David Hayter shows that he has a tattoo of Kobe behind his ear. (I'm not sure if he really does or if that's also some sort of Snatcher reference)
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Could be real too, he did live in Japan for a while during his youth, I'm not sure if he lived in Kobe or not though.Junker Gear Snatcher wrote:EDIT: #-o I read that wrong.
Glad that clears THAT up.
Yes, Gene uses something called Zero Shift.
I also found it interesting that in the Opening of Metal gear Solid 4, during the "commercials" the one with David Hayter shows that he has a tattoo of Kobe behind his ear. (I'm not sure if he really does or if that's also some sort of Snatcher reference)
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Yeah, as far as I know, he was being honest in that commercial, but it either means something or it's a coincidence, either way it's pretty neat.
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Re: Overlapping Kojima games?
would make more sense it it was elijah, not petrovichJunker Gear Snatcher wrote:This may or may not have been said already, sorry, but I don't have the time currently to read all these posts..
But in the first post, under Metal Gear Solid 4, it has Dr. Ellen Madnar credited for saving Raiden, this is incorrect. He was saved by Dr. Petrovich Madnar, the same scientist that gets around.
I thought it was Ellen too, but Raiden refers to "Dr. Madnar" as a he. Also, in the database (takes with grain of salt) Petrovich is in the timeline, linked to Raiden and Paradise Lost.
After all this, and then playing Snatcher, I strongly feel that maybe "MODNAR" is really "MADNAR" and I had to shake off the feeling that Random was related to Raiden. To further complicate things, I've found songs of Snatcher (this could be an error on someone's part) but Random's is called "Randam"
*shrugs* It really is 'one of those things.'
However I'm positive, 100%, that it's Petrovich not Ellen, his daughter, that saved Raiden.
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In Portable Ops+:
- Many characters from the franchise can be unlocked & recruitable, including Johnny Sr. & High Tech Soldiers (MGS3), Young Campbell (MPO), Genome Soldiers (MGS1), Tengu Soldiers & Raiden (MGS2), and Old Snake (MGS4)
- Maps from other titles can be played on MP mode, including Pillbox Purgatory, Ghost Factory, & Killhouse B & C (MGS3/MGO). Rex Hangar can be also played (MGS1)
- There's a unlockeable soldier camo called "Tsu-Han", a reference to 2.5 (or Tsu-Han/Two-Han in japanese version), the main character in Ghost Babel's Radiodrama "Idea Spy".
- Many characters from the franchise can be unlocked & recruitable, including Johnny Sr. & High Tech Soldiers (MGS3), Young Campbell (MPO), Genome Soldiers (MGS1), Tengu Soldiers & Raiden (MGS2), and Old Snake (MGS4)
- Maps from other titles can be played on MP mode, including Pillbox Purgatory, Ghost Factory, & Killhouse B & C (MGS3/MGO). Rex Hangar can be also played (MGS1)
- There's a unlockeable soldier camo called "Tsu-Han", a reference to 2.5 (or Tsu-Han/Two-Han in japanese version), the main character in Ghost Babel's Radiodrama "Idea Spy".