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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:55 pm
by Artemio
Well, there are several things to be considered.

1) the 32 bit versions of Snatcher weren't made by Kojima, they are just ports of the game.
2) The only versions of Snatcher that Kojima worked on are: Snatcher for the PC88, Snatcher for the MSX (which can also could only be considered a port) and PCE CD- ROMantic.

Of course SD-Snatcher is a spin off, but it is a variation of the same theme. The same characters, similar situations, music taken from it fo rthe 16 bit versions of the game. And even it had the ending that the original didn't, parts of which were later incorporated into the CD ROMantic and subsequent versions.

Now, you need to define in what terms you are talking about. he original discussion up there was if Kojima had gone back to Snatcher. Of course he has. It is either he remade just the 16 bit version, or that he revisited the ideas of the game and created SD Snatcher. In either way, SD Snatcher is a very closely related game, created by the same person with the same characters and being fan service in the widest of definitions.

It is not a port, but it is going back over the same theme.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:20 pm
by LOVE OF HATE
Well, MGS4 now feature a direct reference to Snatcher “Metal Gear Mk II”. But in Snatcher, Metal was a direct reference to Metal Gear.

So is it a direct reference to snatcher anymore, if snatcher was a direct reference to Metal Gear? :-k :lol:

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:16 pm
by Artemio
LOVE OF HATE wrote:So is it a direct reference to snatcher anymore, if snatcher was a direct reference to Metal Gear? :-k :lol:
The thing you are not taking into account are the little details. And it is just terminology, isn't it? If by reference you mean "it acknowledges the existance and possible importance of the other one", indeed Snatcher had a reference to Metal Gear. And then, MGS4 has several references to Snatcher. You are trying to make a circular argument with two apparent pieces, but they are at least 3 that follow each other in a timeline (in creation terms).

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:28 am
by Vicious
Crowley wrote:How do you pay homage to your own work?
:razz: That is a damn good question!

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:46 pm
by OtakupunkX
After reading the Kojima interview from EGM in the MGS4 News section I'm starting to wonder if the Metal Gear from Snatcher's just a stand-in for another robot (Metal Gear Sega CD perhaps? ;p ). Then again though, he could just be playing with our minds again.

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:52 pm
by Missing
He obviously intends to reference Snatcher, but that's all it is, a reference. Like you said, he could've just as easily created an entirely new robot, but this is just his way of paying a little notice to the fans. It's the next best thing to a fully 3D Snatcher (or for those of us who don't want it in 3D, even better).

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:59 am
by Randam
That would be sweet to have something like that in the new Metal Gear..the storyline might be a little weird to work with though. Like..since Harry originally made MGMKII
and that was taken from the previous Metal Gears..although Otacon seems to have a MGMKII as well. Bah confusing. If they could make some reference to that it might be cool to see it all pieced together. Eh, hopefully Snake isnt somewhere in Europe this time. Considering the Great Catastrophe is taking place..or would it just turn to Snow 9 right about now? Now if Snake can make vid-phone calls to people, I'd like to see that haha. And I wonder if the Frankenstein project is going on around then..well at least Elijah could be doing something..

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:26 pm
by 87th
It'd be really cool if Jamie or Napoleon were hidden CODEC contacts in the game. :D

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:57 pm
by OtakupunkX
87th wrote:It'd be really cool if Jamie or Napoleon were hidden CODEC contacts in the game. :D
Napoleon : Sorry Snake, I can't give you this important information right now. You must go learn some facts about Napoleon Bonaparte first.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:43 am
by 87th
OtakupunkX wrote: Napoleon : Sorry Snake, I can't give you this important information right now. You must go learn some facts about Napoleon Bonaparte first.
Snake: Napoleon Bonaparte?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:18 pm
by Randam
*CODEC ring*
"Thank you for calling Plato's Cavern, the store with eeeverrythiiing..may I help you?"
"Uh..what the hell?"