Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence

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Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence

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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/17 ... 25243.html

Hmm, wouldn't be cool if mgs1 sported redone graphics with MGS2 engine? Or at least the choice to select Twin Snakes' voice acting?
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Not just cause its badass, America-the rest of the world is going to get the MSX versions of metal gear 1 & 2 msx in perfect translation...sure all our translation and patching is going out the window...but I dont care
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Ops, I always arrive late, and I was confused too... sorry guys, it's late here.

So it doesn't have MGS1, but the original MSX episodes!! Which is actually a better news!!

Great! First official western release for MG Solid Snake, right?
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Jack wrote:Ops, I always arrive late, and I was confused too... sorry guys, it's late here.

So it doesn't have MGS1, but the original MSX episodes!! Which is actually a better news!!

Great! First official western release for MG Solid Snake, right?
pretty much that you can officially say ;)
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Does anyone know how many discs this'll be on?
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I'd like to know also what do you guys think, if SubS will get ported on Xbox as Sub was previously.

I know some Xbox owners and they were all interested in trying the game.
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Don't you love the way that they complain of a 'lack of disc space' then go on and release an expanded game still on a single disc?
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Jonathan Ingram wrote:Don't you love the way that they complain of a 'lack of disc space' then go on and release an expanded game still on a single disc?
To their credit, Substance had more lagging than SoL, and the reason they gave was longer time to access disc, due to all the extra the filled in it.
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It is easily going to be a duel layered., which will give them twice the space but slow speed. Any many PS2s have trouble reading duel layered discs because the laser has seen lots of use.

I would love for them to have 2 single layered DVDs
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I am at the same time intrigued and frightened by where Kojima pulls these names out of.
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Finalfantasy7 wrote:It is easily going to be a duel layered., which will give them twice the space but slow speed. Any many PS2s have trouble reading duel layered discs because the laser has seen lots of use.

I would love for them to have 2 single layered DVDs
Same here. My PS2 is practically dead. And I'm not going to buy a new one, so it's going to have to last about another year until the PS3 releases.
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Mmmm... I'm feeling appropriately elitist for never owning a console. ;)
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Well, after all it was not single disc, but THREE discs! Yay!

by the way, here's a nice coverage of ALL the content you'll find in Subsistence:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/18 ... 33818.html

Subsistence, Persistence and Existence discs, complete with secret theaters and snake erases. ^_^
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Jack wrote:Well, after all it was not single disc, but THREE discs! Yay!

by the way, here's a nice coverage of ALL the content you'll find in Subsistence:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/18 ... 33818.html

Subsistence, Persistence and Existence discs, complete with secret theaters and snake erases. ^_^
And you learn this now?

The official website has been up for two days now. :p
http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mgs3_sub/
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3rd disc available only in first edition!!

The MSX versions aren't -really- the MSX versions but rather the cell phone remakes, with which I really have no problem with of course. There are e few differences, the most noticeable may be the change of character avatars (Sean Connery as Big Boss, for example) and the larger dialogue window in MG2: Solid Snake.
You get to play the epic battle between Snake and ULTRABOX (which is also in MGS, but this time they're not calling themselves ULTRABOX, since it's too cool a name)among other epicness filled epic battles, such as an epic pigeon chase and fooling guards into believing it's night already using an owl, so they deactivate their laser sensors and you can slip in unnoticed! Pure gold.

The 3rd disc of Subsistence seems to contain not just the cutscenes of MGS3 (that'd be simply the Demo Thater Mode) edited together, but also what happens between cutscenes ! Which means an actual MGS movie!
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kitano wrote:3rd disc available only in first edition!!

The MSX versions aren't -really- the MSX versions but rather the cell phone remakes, with which I really have no problem with of course. There are e few differences, the most noticeable may be the change of character avatars (Sean Connery as Big Boss, for example) and the larger dialogue window in MG2: Solid Snake.
You get to play the epic battle between Snake and ULTRABOX (which is also in MGS, but this time they're not calling themselves ULTRABOX, since it's too cool a name)among other epicness filled epic battles, such as an epic pigeon chase and fooling guards into believing it's night already using an owl, so they deactivate their laser sensors and you can slip in unnoticed! Pure gold.

The 3rd disc of Subsistence seems to contain not just the cutscenes of MGS3 (that'd be simply the Demo Thater Mode) edited together, but also what happens between cutscenes ! Which means an actual MGS movie!
So where were you going with this post, outside of stating stuff we already knew? :roll:
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So far the exsistence disc will only be released in Japan in a limted edition so far
What?

Say what say what one more time i dare i double dare you mother f##### say what one more god damm time

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Crowley wrote:Mmmm... I'm feeling appropriately elitist for never owning a console. ;)
If I were you, I'd feel like i'd missed out.
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Johnny Undaunted wrote:
So where were you going with this post, outside of stating stuff we already knew? :roll:
Not much further, except that I'm fine without that tone, thank you.
So far the exsistence disc will only be released in Japan in a limted edition so far
They still advertise the 3-disc edition in the English version of the website, that's why I assume it's going to be brought out overseas, but of course, there still are no certainties...
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The third disc will have videos. What about? Don't know.
It'll only be available at that first edition probably, and that edition will probably be only for the ones that pre-order it.
Damn, I hate this kind of thing.
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Ever heard of Shenmue the Movie? This is essentially Snake Eater the Movie.
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I thought this was Snake Eater: the movie...

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Post by 87th »

I didn't think this was worth a new topic, but still more than worth mentioning. Subsistence just recieved 39/40 from Famistu. :D
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So,
They say there'll be an extra DVD for pre-orders, will I be able to get the pre-order version with the headset?
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