Why does Meryl always die in MGS1?

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Why does Meryl always die in MGS1?

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Keep in mind- I don't submit to Otacon when he tortures Snake with the electric device. Afterwards, Otacon says "Very well, I'm impressed."

Yet every time I beat Liquid in hand-to-hand atop Rex, Snake goes to Meryl, sees that she's dead, and screams "Nooooooo!!!!! I gave in to my fear. I gave in to my pain", and the sad, tragic music starts to play. Why does this always happen, I thought that resisting Otacon's torture was the secret to keeping Meryl alive?
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Ocelot kills her if you give up in the torture room. If you manage to 'beat' it, then she survives for the end of the game.
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Yeah, pretty much what 87th said.

If you submit to Ocelot's torture then Snake will find Meryl dead, but if you don't submit then she'll be alive after you've defeated Liquid. Also, since we've seen Meryl in MGS4, logic dictates that Meryl's survival in MGS1 is canonical.

Hope this clears everything up.
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How do you think Otacon would torture Snake? Do a Clockwork Orange on him and force him to watch Armageddon (the anime)?
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Osiris wrote:Do a Clockwork Orange on him and force him to watch Armageddon (the anime)?
Oh god, someone else has watched that? It's possibly the worst thing I've ever seen. It's so crap that even YTMND.com would reject it.
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Please tell me that I am mistaken and that they didn't make an anime based on the film.
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No, it's this Korean anime from the 90s. I haven't seen it, but a Korean friend of mine always bashed GameFan for hating it ("Just because it's Korean," he would say), then he watched it and agreed it was the worst anime he's ever seen.
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They introduce characters as if they will be inmportant to the rest of the film, only to kill them off (literally) 5 seconds later, and not mention them again! It's awful!
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