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Heylo every one, friendly junker here. I was just pondering to my myself "Hey every one here has devoted a peice of there life to snatcher, I bet they have alot of ideas for fan fiction or a second game, or anime." So anyone have anything cause ive been thinking everday about a new story.
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I'd rather not think about it, as I know if Kojima ever makes a sequal, the ideas will make mine look embaressing.
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.....Hmmmmmm..... Damn Kojima and his non Snatcher 2 making self.... AHHHHHHH
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I wouldn't be too hasty. Now he's left MetalGear for Imaizumi, maybe he'll have time to explore his ignored series'? I mean, we might get a 3D re-imagining of Lost WARld for all we know.
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Ive had an idead in my since about....hmmm maybe 2 days ago just a premice to base the setting of the game on. Very little, not my big idea but its pretty cool.

Setting takes place about maybe 8- 12 years later than Snatcher, still on earth... in some ways. Due to the problem of the snatcher menace and the resurfacing of them as well has lead the people of earth to want a better life away from earth (just like blade runner) Extensive amount of work done on mars to make it habitable over a short amount of times has lead to more research on earth and on mars. Through extreme amount of investigating Mar's surface, a mysterious anomily is found. Never released to any one out of the ANC (A New Chance) program. About a year after researching this unkown proberty, something goes wrong. No one knows if the project was sabotage or an accident. Mars looses all features gravitational force, now the earth the closest gravitation zone too mars has been cuaght in the earths belt. A National conference is held, the decicion of the people is to terminate the threat by a massive weapon of destruction. The outcome of our actions were meant for mars to implode and decinegrate, yet in the end about 25% of Mars broke apart and headed towards earth. A program in the development since long before even the Catastrophy was put into action "Project Shepard". A large scale deploy of 50 Space stations all with the purpose of keeping the remains of mars from destroying Earth. The stations are actually all lagr scale gavity belts to keep the asteroids in orbit around the earth (Resembling that of saturn and its shepard moons)


If you would like to hear more about the snatcher defect from the Destruction of Mars "Toxoplasmosis"
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The obvious route would be to have the second game take place (or at least start) in Moscow. For some reason I've had this strange idea that the main bad guy running the show would be an upgraded Snatcher modelled after Elijah Modnar.
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Forgive me if I'm mistaken (wouldn't be the first time)... but...

Wasn't Modnar basically working on his own, though? All that's left for Gillian is to hit the real Kremlin and it's story over. And with a whole military armada on his side, I doubt he'd have much trouble with that.

If anything, I'd do an alternate universe story. Or possibly a story that focused moreso on the Bounty Hunter side of things. Not necessarily Random's story, but a story that focused more on the darker side of Snatcher hunting, the bounty hunters. Create the typical dark and mysterious lead character (much like Random in ways) and create a story of him bent on revenge on the Snatchers for say maybe killing his family and/or the love of his life. Kind of like Punisher with a Snatcher twist, I guess.

I don't know... just a thought.
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Ive thought of a story with a bounty hunter, but i thought that revenge from his family's death would be way to cliche, i mean everybody does that.


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I set up 2 different courses that would work realy good in my perspective.

I was saying that because of the whole mars thing ^, the particles that reached earth came in as dust, but within the dust would be a single-celled organism(protozoa) similar to Toxoplasma Gondii that takes a host and absorbs everything within it. TOXOPLASMOSIS.

Course 1- The dust would infiltrate through our atmosphere infecting millions, of a course of time we would find a cure. Though a cure for humans was found, the snatcher population would suffer immensly due to the absense organic compounds that would take in a human body but not there own..... soooooooo the snatcher would have to find a new cure, or find a way to create a new form resistant to the Organism.

Course 2- Like above, the disease would spread throughout the world, a panic would come to the worlds people. Major minds of all nations would become infected, in fear, with no cure, the people seek another way to preserve their leaders. They decide to reserve the minds of those infected and insert them into the brains of bio androids. After years of the use of the bio host bodies, something goes wrong. The Ideals of the leaders start to change... snatchers are back, and there in control.

...any one like these ideas or are they crap...
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Intresting XD
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Boy these pointless threads do get tiring [sp] sometimes. *yawn*
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Ninja Kurosai wrote:tiring [sp]
INCORRECT!! :x Tireing. :P
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Remember the original Blade Runner ending - not the Directors Cut.... that was pretty much stylistically the same as the 3rd act ending of Snatcher (questions left slighty unanswered - and a distant journey)...The Directors cut of Blade Runner was moreso the PC/MSX versions - (*boom* open ended, with many questions).

So whats my point?... er, thats right; The ending of Snatcher was meant to be the end - much like in Blade Runner (the movie - dont get me started on those series of books) it lives beyond the game experince through your interpretation of what happens next. Another Snatcher following Gillian (probably) wouldn't be a good idea - in my opinion. A side story maybe.....like...Gibson?...nah, we all know how he ends.

My thoughts - leave Snatcher as it is rather than blemishing its perfection and cult following - as much as I'd love another experience, I'd hate it to ruin the first one - pesimistic maybe... but the main-stream has a habit of influence. A thought.
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There is so much more they could do with the story, it would be perfect to continue it. Thats the same way everyone feels about blade runner. Theres so many options they could use to make a 2nd Snatcher. I only feel that he should not make it into a game, because all game today suck. Everyone is afraid to use a old style of playing such as the snathcer interface. All games consist of today are fighting, FPS, Rpgs, Racing all just overall the same damn thing othing than new at all.

If they made another snatcher it should be either an Anime movie or anime series based on either a new idea or the stories of one of the original junkers that died, or even the stories of all the bounty hunters.
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That sounds like a more plausible route.

[quote] There is so much more they could do with the story, it would be perfect to continue it. Thats the same way everyone feels about blade runner

I've never anyone wanting another Blade Runner - I'm not sure if it would really work -or be too credible. The Blade Runner PC game was good though. And much like what we're talking about here - was in another medium, and a side / parallel story.

I think that Snatcher has more to offer, but its mainly more of the same - and my mental world of Neo Kobe 2042/7 is so vivid that I'd be concerned about directions with a another one. Snatcher is cool because it's Snatcher... when something is that good, how can a sequel better it. I'm not saying that anyone is wrong though - its just my thoughts (and don't even begin with the Godfather II story) :)
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If you check out bladezone.com in the forums you'll see that there are big disputes over a 2nd movie, some people are actualy making an online series of blade runner.

Plus i Always wanted to see Kojimas view of what a truly detailed Neo Kobe what look like, i mean it would be awsome to see Gillian and metal walking down the streets pass the neo kobe pizza stand and the streets of platos cavern.

Thats what should be done, not a sequel but a movie of the game.
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Snatcher2047 wrote:
Ninja Kurosai wrote:tiring [sp]
INCORRECT!! :x Tireing. :P
Bah! :grin:
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As a side note there's been a screenplay for a second Blade Runner movie in existence for well over a decade and most people in the film industry who have read it have liked it. The only problem is that the producers for the first BR who own the rights are asses who don't want anything further to be done with it (Ridley Scott put together his "definitive" cut of the movie about three years ago in the advent of DVD, and these people aren't willing to publish it).

And so far I have never heard anyone say that the Blade Runner (by Westwood) game is bad. And considering that previous comment about the rightholders (is that a word?) I seriously wonder how that game got made.
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I didn't realise there was a Blade Runner 2 script. Not available anywhere, is it?

And it's 'tiring.'
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I'm not suprised though on the Blade Runner PC issue. It was made on the peak of when games like that in general were dieing out on the market (reason I had to get Duckman PC in Germany). I found it to be an amazing experiance of a game. I never even knew too people who loved the franchise hated it!? :???:

As for the whole case in point, I demand that whomever decides there to be the idea of a snatcher, or blade runner 2 should be drug out into the street and shot. What are they gonna do? The adventures of Hannibal Chew? (and no he didn't fucking die from the replicants...well he's alive in my heart :( )

anyways, this topic is making me want to kill baby seals and eat small children..so tireing-iring. :cool:
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please dont hurt me im fragile and to pretty to die...
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As you've guessed by now - my opinion on a Snatcher movie is that Snatcher may well be best left alone, the same goes for Blade runner. But each to their own, and when you like something a lot, you want more of it - (hence the want for a Blade Runner 2 on a BR forum), I personally think that it will remain much stronger as a stand alone, one of it's kind - before CGI warped peoples movie making brains. The Westwood game was great thought... "and...and he said, if you touch it...it will explode!"

Lets no longer dispute this fact. And more our attention to something all the more important... Ok so there is a Blade Runner movie.."shit!, who's in it?" - thats the next question... so what do you all reckon. - - for Gillian, Jamie, Mika, Random, Benson, Harry, Ivan, Freddy, Gibson, Katrina, Chin, Elijah, Isabella, Napoleon and the gang.

Gillain - hmm.. dunno, would need to be someone who can do humour and be a bit goofy, but serious and cool. If it was around 10 years ago, I might have said Mel Gibson, but he's all signed up for Policenauts with Danny(heehee).

Chin would have to be that wired chinese guy that was in everything around mid 80's - I think he was in Big Trouble in Little China... anyways - he's probably dead now!

Harry - A difficult one - about 16 years ago I might have said Peter Falk! But he's looking far to old these days.

Have a think and see who can make the perfect cast (that aren't past it or dead)!!!!
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Well for gillian i would have to say that ford would be great but is far to old now, well actualy not. i mean the game wasnt an action packed game it was more investigations then fighting. But who I would realy like to see as Gillian would be Tadonabu Asano (Ichi the Killer,SSMPHG) that would be if this came out as a japanese movei first, or he would prob make a great Random. As for Jamie id like to see jennifer connely but with dyed hair, mika= Sean young from blade runner always reminded me of mika, most likely the hair. Katrina maybe jessica biel or jessica alba.. ill think of more.
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We need to get Anthony Wong for Chin after he finishes with Initial D.
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Would a live action movie be the right path or would an anime be better, cause it would almost be like remaking blade runner, or even like natural city (Korean movie i think)
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