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I'm pretty sure the following joke was taken out of the English version of Snatcher, if I remember correctly. I checked the Sega CD dump and couldn't find it in there. I thought you guys might be interested to know about it, if no one else has mentioned it before. Anyway, when you go to Gibson's house in Act 1 and talk to Katrina, she tells you this in the Japanese versions:

Katrina: (in English version)Alice is our dog. Dad named her after Mom...after she died.(/in English version) We used to have two dogs at first. The other one was called Telece, but she died... We used to call them "Alice and Telece". Kinda funny, don't you think?

Gillian: Uh...yeah, that's funny, really funny... Laugh, Metal.

Metal: Ha ha ha ha ha...

Now, Alice and Telece is an old Japanese TV show for kids. In Japanese, it's "arisu to teresu". The thing is, this is also the same way the Japanese pronounce the name Aristotle, so there's a pun in there. I'm guessing they took it out (if I remember right and they did) because I just can't see any way you could translate this joke to English (plus most people outside Japan haven't heard of the show).

Another reference is how she says "nihiki awasete arisu to teresu to yondetano" (literally) - "we used to call the two of them Alice and Telece." This is similar to the line from the show "Arisu de--su. Teresu de--su. (together)Futari awasete arisu to teresu de--su!" "I--'m Alice. I--'m Telece. And we a--re - Alice and Telece!"


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Haha, I love how Gillian doesn't seem to think it's fun at all.
But you're right, it wouldn't have worked at all in English. But it sure was interesting to get to know about this. Are there any other cut-out jokes or pieces of dialogue?


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Artemio and I are actually going through the two scripts (PSX and Sega CD) side by side for the first time and noticing some interesting things.

For instance, there's a whole thread about Jean and candy that was added to the PSX and Saturn versions. I'll try and run down all the bits.

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When you talk to Mika in the lobby About Gibson, the last part of the exchange is:

Mike: He might seem a little intimidating at first, but he can be a really nice guy. He goes to this orphanage a lot for children who've lost their parents to Snatchers. He always carries candy with him to give to them.

Search Gibson's clothes:

Metal: What's this? ...There was some candy in his pocket. I wonder why he had it?
(if you heard Mika's previous explanation) Gillian: He gave it out to kids at an orphanage.
Metal: What should we do with it?
Gillian: Let's keep it. I'm sure that's what he'd want.

Items:

(Look)
Metal: Those are the pieces of candy that were in Jean's pocket.

(Investigate)
Metal: That's the candy Jean gave out to children at an orphanage.

(Show - Jamie)
Jamie: What's that candy?
Gillian: It belonged to Gibson, the guy I was supposed to work with.
Jamie: Why did he have candy with him?
Gillian: Apparently he gave them out to kids at an orphanage.
Jamie: He sounded like a nice guy.

(second time)
Jamie: That's Gibson's candy, isn't it?

(Show - Cunningham)
Cunningham: What's that candy you've got there?
Gillian: (He doesn't know about it? Doesn't look like the chief and Gibson were very close.)

(Show - Mika)
(if you've given some to her already) Mika: That's Jean's candy, isn't it?
(if you haven't) Mika: I think I've seen that candy somewhere before.

(Show - Harry)
(if you've given some to him already) Harry: That's Jean's, isn't it?
(if you haven't) Harry: Hey, that candy looks familiar.

(Show - Katrina)
(if you've talked about the candy already) Katrina: That's my dad's candy, isn't it?
(if you've given some to her already) Katrina: That's the same candy you gave me before, isn't it?
(if you haven't shown it to her) Katrina: I think I've seen that candy somewhere before.

(Show - Napoleon (Alton Plaza 1))
(if you've given him some candy) Napoleon: That's Gibson's candy, isn't it? He's a nice guy./He was a nice guy. <--depending on if he knows he's dead or not.

(Show - Plato's Cavern cashier)
Cashier: If it's candy you're looking for, I've got some better stuff than that.

(Show - Napoleon (Outer Heaven door))
Napoleon: No thank you, I don't like sweet things.

(Show - Isabella)
Isabella: Candy? You'll need to do better than that with me.

(Show - Homeless people)
Homeless people: Something like ain't gonna fill ya up.

(Show - Lisa)
Lisa: What's that?

(Show - Napoleon (Alton Plaza 2))
Napoleon: That's Gibson's candy, isn't it? He always carried that around with him.

(Show - Oleen Hospital patrons)
Patron: Is that candy for pets?

Give candy:

(Mika)
Gillian: Jean's death must be hard for you... Here, have some candy.
Mika: Was this Jean's?
Gillian: Yeah, we found it in his coat pocket. You were right. He was a nice guy.
Mika: Yeah, really nice...

(second time)
Mika: Jean...
Gillian: You could keep that for good luck.
Mika: Yeah, I think I'll do that. Thanks, Gillian.

(Harry)
Gillian: Here, take some candy. It belonged to Gibson. We found it in his coat. You knew about what he did with it, didn't you?
Harry: Of course... He was a nice guy.
Gillian: You could keep it for good luck. I'm sure it'll watch over you.
Harry: Yeah, I'm sure it will.

(Katrina - Gibson's house)
Gillian: Katrina, this must be such a shock for you... Here, have some candy.
Katrina: Thanks... Hey, this was my favorite candy when I was little. How'd you know?
Gillian: Actually, I didn't... So this is your favorite candy, huh?

(second time)
Gillian: Would you like some more?
Katrina: Thanks. It's strange, I feel stronger just by having this.
Gillian: Doesn't surprise me...

(third time)
Gillian: Here, why don't I just give you all of them, Katrina. Keep them for whenever you feel lonely.

(Talk about the candy)
Gillian: Actually, Katrina, this candy belonged to your father.
Katrina: It did?
Gillian: Apparently he would give them out to children at an orphanage.
Katrina: Really? He did that?
Gillian: We found them in his coat pocket at the scene where he died.
Katrina: Dad...

(Katrina - Apartment)
Gillian: Katrina, this must be such a shock for you... Here, have some of this candy.
Katrina: Thanks... Hey, this was my favorite candy when I was little. How'd you know?
Gillian: Actually, I didn't... So this is your favorite candy, huh?

(after she knows about it)
Gillian: I hope this candy makes you feel better, Katrina.
Katrina: This was my dad's candy... I could never eat this. I think I'll just hold on to it instead.
Gillian: Sounds like a good idea.

(if she saw it at the house)
Katrina: This is the same candy from before, isn't it? I like it a lot.
Gillian: So this is your favorite candy, huh?

(again)
Gillian: Would you like some more?
Katrina: Thanks. It's strange, I feel stronger just by having this.
Gillian: Doesn't surprise me...

(If you explain the origin of the candy here, the conversation is the same.)


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You can also do stuff with Mika at the beginning you can't do in the Sega CD version (in all Japanese versions).

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Look

Mika's breasts

Gillian: (They're a lot bigger than I thought...)
Mika: What are you doing?! I don't believe you...

Gillian: (I can't get a good look at them with those folders in the way.)
Mika: I'm going to get mad if you keep that up.

Mika: Give it a rest...

Mika: I can't believe you're acting like this.

Mika: I think the chief might be right...

Mika: Now I think I know why you and your wife are separated.


Ask

Mika's measurements (i.e. BWH)

Mika: Maybe some other time.

Mika: Perhaps after we get to know each other better...

Mika: Why don't I leave that up to your imagination?

Mika: No, I'm not going to tell you, Gillian, okay? You could always try and find out for yourself.
(if you checked her profile in JORDAN)
Gillian: They weren't listed in JORDAN.
Mika: I don't believe you, you actually tried to look that up?
Gillian: I take these things seriously. But why weren't they in there?
Mika: Well... I deleted my measurements from Alpha-One.
Gillian: So I'm never gonna get to find out?
Mika: I don't want to be bound with numbers like that.
Gillian: (I wouldn't mind putting the bind on you...)

Mika: For goodness sake, Gillian, just let it go!

Mika: The chief is going to get mad at you again.


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This is from Gillian's apartment when Katrina is there.

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Look

Floor

Metal: Gillian, there's something lying on the floor.

Metal: There's something lying on the floor.

Metal: Are these...panties? And a brassiere?
Gillian: What?
Metal: This is underwear! Women's underwear...
Gillian: Thank you, God...

Metal: There's a pair of underwear on the floor. Whose could they be? Are they yours?
Gillian: Yeah right! I don't know where they came from!

Metal: There's a pair of women's underwear on the floor.


Underwear

Gillian: Hey, these are cute... Who could've put these in my apartment?
Metal: Nice try, Gillian.

Metal: It's silk underwear. I would imagine their owner must place a lot of importance on what they wear. Underwear is a woman's ultimate weapon, after all. Most of the women who wear underwear such as this either belong to the upper class, or work as a model or some similar profession.

Gillian: Models? ...Could they be Katrina's?

Gillian: A-Are these...hers? Meaning...she's naked right now?

Metal: Don't let your guard down, Gillian. What if it were a Snatcher?


Bra

Gillian: This...This is a bra!


Remove

Your clothes

Metal: Why are you undressing?
Gillian: I'm gonna try these on.
(or)
Gillian: I'm gonna get in the shower.

Metal: You're kidding, right?
Gillian: Yeah, heh...


Take

Underwear

Gillian: Maybe I'll just help myself to these...
Metal: I will tell the chief!
Gillian: C'mon, Metal, sometimes an investigation requires you search a little underwear now and then. Go get 'em for me!
Metal: I guess I don't have a choice... Just be sure and return them.

Metal: You're already holding them, Gillian.


Smell

Underwear

Gillian: All right, time to smell these babies... <<sniff sniff>> Mmm, they smell nice. ...Hey, I know this smell.
Metal: You're into that sort of thing, are you?
Gillian: Don't say anything to anyone...

Gillian: This smell...
Metal: What is it?
Gillian: I definitely know this smell!
Metal: Are they Katrina's?
Gillian: ...That's what I'm hoping.

Gillian: There's no doubt about it, Metal! I know who these belong to!

Yourself

Gillian: <<sniff sniff>> ...Man, I really smell.
Metal: Of course, you spend all your time on the investigation. When was the last time you even took a bath?
Gillian: Not in a while, actually... Do I smell pretty bad?
Metal: Odors do not bother me, but as for other people...
Gillian: I haven't even changed my clothes. I'll never pick up a woman like this.


Look

Katrina's face

Gillian: (She's got a really flirtatious face...)

Gillian: (This feels kinda weird...)
Katrina: Is there something on my face?

Katrina: What is it Gillian? Are you mad at me?


Katrina's breasts

Gillian: (Jeez Louise, what a rack!)

Gillian: (Any single guy would go nuts over this.)


Waist

Gillian: (She's really sexy...)

Gillian: (Women truly are the Devil.)


Bath towel

Gillian: Metal Gear Mk II, I've got a job for you -- go get that bath towel!
Metal: Even if you use my full name, I still will not do it.

Metal: Why do I have to do something like that?
Katrina: What are you two going on about?

Katrina: Cut it out, Gillian!


If you reenter the bathroom after this scene:

Gillian: This is where Katrina's underwear was lying.
Metal: We already returned it to her, though.
Gillian: (Yeah, don't remind me.)


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Man wouldn't I want a Policenauts translation with such quality and attention to detail...

I am really happy about reading this, and have updated the Snatcher verxion page to reflect this omissions/additions.

Thanks Marc.

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At Gibson's house in Act 1, there are a couple of things you can do/lines that weren't carried over.

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(in English version)Gillian: Come on, Katrina, you've got to pull through.
Katrina: Okay, Gillian. If I need any advice, I'll be sure to ask you.(/in English version)
Gillian: (Everything's going exactly to plan...)
Metal: She isn't stupid, Gillian.


Touch

Gillian: You've got a mosquito on you, Katrina.
Gillian: You've got a piece of fluff on you, Katrina.
Gillian: You've got a spot of water on you, Katrina.

Katrina: Aaahh! Where do you think you're touching me?!
Metal: Gillian, what are you doing?!


Push down

Gillian: Look out, Katrina!
Gillian: Katrina, get down!

Katrina: Ow, that hurt!
Katrina: What are you doing, Gillian?! I don't see anything.

Metal: Not only did you just blatantly lie, but you also knocked over Katrina for no apparent reason!


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I noticed one other little thing when I was playing the first part of the game yesterday that I don't think made it over. After you meet Metal Gear, if you Look at him, you get the following exchange in addition to what's already there:

Gillian: He's looks kinda like a hermit crab.
Metal: ...A hermit crab? How rude!


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Impressive work. =D>

I love all this kind of joking. :mrgreen:

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